Sorry, I'm not excited about Hillary
So according to all the media chatter, huge pluralities love Hillary Clinton, can't wait to vote for her in the primaries, and her inauguration a bit less than two years from now is all but assured.
Sorry, but I'm not buying it. The junior Senator leaves me cold on any number of fronts; issues, personality, record (Hillarycare, anyone?), and frankly, I'm beginning to resent all the manufactured hype. Talk to average Democrats, even here, on what The New York Times calls her 'home turf', and you'll not find much excitement, either. Where are all these people I'm always told can't wait to pull that lever?
If anything, there's distrust, apprehension about the electoral fallout (it's taken as a baseline given in most conversations that I've had that she'll lose; people are now worrying about the Congress), and frankly, a deep and growing irritation that she's shoving herself down our throats a year before the first caucus. People are talking, that's clear; but they're not talking about what a great idea it would be to send Hillary Rodham Clinton to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. This in part, perhaps, because she doesn't really stand for much of anything but her own advancement, it seems. Sure, she wants to be President, that's no surprise; why, and what she'd do if elected, and how far you could trust her to implement the vision thing, nobody really knows.
If you're looking for Hillary's 'base', or 'home turf', look elsewhere. New York City ain't it.
After the jump: "Hillary" on SNL. Ha!
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Just to let you know..........
Submitted by Rock Hackshaw (not verified) on 24 January 2007 - 9:30am.
MICHAEL: just wanted to let you know that I am not excited about her either; but I may have no choice but to vote for her if she wins the Democrat's nomination. Republicans are no option this time arond; neither is a 3rd party or an independent.
agreed
Submitted by mole333 on 24 January 2007 - 11:43am.
In the context of the Democratic Primary, I am far from excited about Hillary. In fact I am about as underwhelmed as you can get. BUT, in the context of the general election, I am certainly excited about her in comparison with ANY of the Republican candidates being talked about.
The hard question, for me, is what we can do
Submitted by Daniel Millstone on 24 January 2007 - 3:50pm.
help ensure that the primary struggles we'll all get into don't become so bitter that they provide nothing but GOP fodder. I remember Mark Green's last few campaigns. The bad feelings they engendered continued into the general elections. The democratic campaign in the 19th CD seemed to me the closest model to what I'd hope for this cycle. The democratic candidates all campaigned against Sue Kelly and none of them tried to do in the others. Can we live like them?
Not enthusiastic
Submitted by sidnora on 26 January 2007 - 12:00am.
but not ready to shoot myself yet, either. It's more than a year out from the first primary, and it's a mistake to put too much stock in national polls at this point. The ones we should be watching are polls from the early caucus and primary states, where she's anything but dominant. And nominees are not chosen by the general voting population, but rather by the base, who are not her fans.
Also her name recognition is stratospheric but her positives are not, which would indicate that everyone knows her, but lots of folks don't like her. Harder, maybe, to change a pre-exisiting ( and not favorable) opinion than to make a first mpression.
The national polls are also showing Rudy G. very dominant, and which of us here thinks he's going to be the Republican nominee? Step right up, because I'd be eager to take that wager.
The real danger for those of us who'd prefer another nominee is that Clinton's putting a lot of pressure on the big party donors and fundraisers to contribute exclusively to her, and starting out as she is, with lots more money than the rest of the pack already, she might be able to stomp her way to the nomination. If the not-Clinton parts of the party manage to coalesce enthusiastically around a single alternative candidate fairly early on, that alternative could cancel out her funding advantage by raising a lot of small-donation money on-line as Dean did; otherwise, her warchest may be an insurmountable problem.
LOL
That's GREAT..... Obama is black and Hilary is black wow!!!! I guess I am too LOL
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