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Reform Democratic Clubs in Brooklyn: IND and CBID
Last night was a big night in the tiny world of Brooklyn reform Democratic politics. Both the Independent Neighborhood Democrats (IND) and the Central Brooklyn Independent Democrats (CBID) had big meetings. I attend IND, so can go into some detail about that but can only summarize CBID's meeting, which my wife attended.
CBID, the more progressive of the clubs and one which I recently wrote about how they can do good things when everyone behaves, had it's much expected civil war last night with its two main factions fighting it out tooth and nail. I saw last January's version of this and liken it to ancient Rome's public entertainment in the Coliseum: gladiators, wild beast fights and public executions. Last night's meeting was apparently similar. Much fighting, one side won big, the other side is threatening to take their marbles and go home. My wife, being one of only a handful of people both factions like, was re-elected to the Executive Board and was elected Corresponding Secretary (congratulations!). My wife and I agree that our interactions with BOTH sides have largely been fine and BOTH sides are pretty active. We by and large agree with BOTH sides on almost every issue except how they interact with eachother. Which brings up the interesting point that both sides by and large seem to agree with eachother on almost every issue except how they interact with eachother. The defeated faction has already been taking an interest in another club that I have heard good things about, Brooklyn Democrats for Change, and there has been talk of formation of yet another club. For my wife and myself, CBID is practically around the corner and, along with IND, cover the territories we live and play in, so we are likely to stay focused on those two clubs. But to Brooklyn Democrats for Change and any other new reform or progressive minded clubs: we wish you luck and look forward to working with you in the future. And my hope for both CBID factions: let's cool off a bit and try working together. There are far more important things at stake than who controls the quarum calls at one club in Central Brooklyn.
IND's meeting was far more sedate, though some may remember that a short time ago I had my complaints about IND as well. IND has its fights as well, but more often than not those have to do with who supports which candidate while at CBID people seem to agree on candidates more but fight over personality conflicts. IND has not had their elections yet, but last night they had their nominations. I was nominated to their executive board, despite the fact that some of what I wrote about them last year ruffled quite a few feathers. Some of those whose feathers I'd ruffled suggested that first pissing off key members is a perfectly traditional way to make an entrance onto IND's executive board. I get the impression a good fight is appreciated at IND, and once the fight is over, people get together again and move on. That suits me just fine. Thanks to Devin Cohen for nominating me (I didn't get a chance to thank him last night!) and thanks to many IND members for welcoming me.
Most of IND's meeting last night was a very interesting series of good speakers. Velmanette Montogomery and Joan Millman discussed the discussion in the State Legislature of how we may now elect judges in NY State now that the old, corrupt system of judicial conventions has been declared unconstitutional. This fight comes right as former Brooklyn Democratic Party Chair, Clarence Norman, faces new indictments for selling a judgeship for $50,000...and $6,000 in postage stamps. POSTAGE STAMPS??? Interesting. Clarence Norman and new party chair Vito Lopez together allegedly sold judgeships to such a blatant degree that it became an embarrassment to the local party.. Now the State Legislature has a chance to change things. Some of the ideas being kicked around include open elections, which has the advantage of making judges more directly accountable to the public, but also politicizes the judiciary, something which can be a big negative. If state-level judicial elections come about, then there is a discussion of giving a break to already sitting judges because they have actually been legally forbidden to be directly involved in politics for 14 years, putting them at a disadvantage. There is discussion of redistricting to make the districts smaller. To give you an idea of the size of districts, one district includes all of Kings and Richmond counties. That is not only a huge case load, but would make elections a nightmare for someone whose expertise is legal, not political. Keep an eye open for the hearings coming up on this issue. It is an area where we are getting real reform.
And speaking of reform, we had a guest from Queens: Assemblyman Michael Gianaris. He is pushing non-partisan redistricting and here is an important point. When the Republicans gain control, they redistrict to create new districts for themselves, legally, but immorally, gerrymandering, carving up districts for purely political reason. (Side note: Gianaris pointed out it was his overzealous pushing of partisan redistricting that led to the arrest of Tom DeLay). Now that the Democrats are in power in Albany, we are talking NONPARTISAN (or bipartisan) redistricting. Gianaris put it well: let's focus on doing it fairly and getting it right, leading to more competitive races. That's why I am a Democrat, we think like that more often than Republicans seem to. Gianaris also discussed just how disgusting and horrible Con/Ed is and how terribly they handled last year's blackout. He pointed out something that is really pretty un-American: Con/Ed has an indefinite franchise on our energy grid. There is no review, no competition. That isn't right!
Hakeem Jeffries dropped by and I have to say it was the first time I saw him where he was amiable. I have written about how I always found him surly and unfriendly. Last night I saw his better side, I guess, and he came off much better than I'd seen him before. Good luck to him.
We also head from yet another candidate to replace Yvette Clarke in the 40th City Council District, Mohammed "Moe" Razvi. Earlier I reported on my impressions of Zenobia McNalley and Jesse Hamilton after hearing them at CBID. I liked both. Well, based only on a naive impression from last night (and I am trying to keep a naive open mindedness to all candidates to start with), I also liked Razvi. He is a Pakistani immigrant who, like Zenobia and Jesse, has done a great deal of community involvement, which is one of my main criteria for judging candidates. He was a small businessman who started doing community work on his own after 9/11 and has focused on building collaborations and cooperation among many community groups as well as offering legal advice, computer classes and English instruction to community members. He was a very amiable man. He seems to have less previous political involvement than Zenobia and Jesse, but all three have been good community activists. So far I like all three, though I have to say Razvi got no difficult questions last night. Definitely a softball evening for him and I would like to hear where he stands on several issues he didn't address last night, like Atlantic Yards, DRE machines and the recent attacks on the freedom of assembly of New Yorkers. Still, so far Zenobia McNally, Jesse Hamilton and Moe Razvi seem to make a very good, very community-oriented field of candidates. I will report on other candidates if and when I meet them.
Several people brought up perhaps the most important state-level thing right now: the special election for State Senate. The bottom line, SUPPORT Craig Johnson for State Senate! THAT we all can agree on in both CBID and IND.




Informative.
Mole: you are always informative when you give the 411 on these club meetings. I do like to read about the goings-on. Long, long, long ago, I would go to some CBID meetings; especially during the election cycle, and especially if/when I was pushing a candidate for something or the other. It's good to see that they have survived the years. In 1996 (damn/ where have the years gone) we tried to get them to support/endorse Desmond Green for Surrogate Judge over Michael Feinberg. He would have been the first black to hold such an office. We failed. Only Assemblyman Brennan (as an individual) said he would vote for him, since Desmond was then living in the 44th AD.
Thanks
Always good to know you're coming by. I have actually been focusing more on Daily Gotham's companion site, Culture Kitchen, which has a more national focus. But I still love to wallow in the local politics.
By the way, something struck me in your piece on Trinidad and Tobago recently:
This has been my view for a long time: there but for the grace of an organized society we all have some take it go us. As an American Jew I tend to put it this way: Yes "it" CAN happen here. I sometimes wonder what it would take for those of us who think we are civilized and law abiding to become what we think only "they" do.
CBID
Minus the random acts of verbal violence I enjoyed the meeting last night. I agreed Mo Razvi is a nice guy too. Good community person.
The Masterpiece
"More blue less red please"
Good to hear
I am glad you enjoyed CBID. Please...more details! I was sorry I missed it, but since CBID and IND meet on the same night and I have history with IND, I opted for IND. But I think both have considerable strong (and weak) points and would like to see both prosper.
Plus, my wife needs all the help she can get keeping the club together!
Hey
I enjoy the gentle war of club politics. CBID has some real potential long term. No more fighting, spread your wings and bring in new members to work with existing members. Its democracy at its finest in the Bush WarLord regime.
2007 is still an election year. You have some judicial elections in November....and you know where we stand on judges and politics. No corruption please!!!!! Can not wait for the next meeting. I will call it "The Aftermath"...oh wait that was the name of Dr. Dre's album....well he will not mind!!!!!
The Masterpiece
"More blue less red please"
More info please!
I attended the CBID meeting, which was true to its seat-of-the-pants, grassroots character in every way. In deference to my alarm clock, I had to leave immediately after dropping my Exec Board ballot in the box, and so I don't know which side "won big". I'm guessing it would be the same side that swept the officer's ballot, but would appreciate confirmation. Maybe now we can actually get something accomplished there.
We also were lucky enough to get a bit of time from Velmanette Montgomery on the judicial election/selection topic, and I hope this gets plenty of thoughtful consideration, as well as some input from all the clubs mentioned above, before a decision is made. With Vito in the driver's seat I'm not optimistic about a good outcome on this complex issue. Senator Montgomery also spent a bit of time talking about Craig Johnson, but unfortunately neglected to mention the upcoming fundraiser - please see Bouldin's post on the front page for a link to the info, and do come!
Congratulations on your nomination to the CBID exec committee. I'm sorry I couldn't be there to second it, but I will surely be on hand to vote.
Last, and totally O/T, we watched a movie I think you'd like, if you haven't seen it yet - Everything is Illuminated. I would even recommend that you read the book first - by Park Slope's own Jonathan Safran Foer, and a very original take on a topic I know is close to your heart, Eastern European Jews in search of their shattered roots. Let me know, I can lend you my copy.
Sure
Would love to read it. Thanks!