An SD 3 residents take on his home district

I read with utter fascination my fellow progressive bloggers comments regarding the potential Democratic nominee for this Long Island District that has been my home for forty years. I have read some patently partisan posts by supporters of the Democratic nominee of the past two cycles who regrettably used our progressive blogs to launch a preemptive-strike at the NYS DSCC and one of our local Democratic Islip Town Councilman, Chris Bodkin. I also read with great interest Phillip Anderson's excellent post regarding a potential primary. Phillip, who I respect greatly provided a very reasoned and sobering view of a primary challenge.

While I disagree with his framing of Councilman Bodkin using the Dahroug campaign meme of " a Republican who wants to be the Democratic candidate" I none the less wholeheartedly agree with his core sentiment of the healthy benefits of such a primary. Phillip's post is far superior to other Dahroug supporters who seem more bent on vilifying a challenger they do not know, never interviewed and have only taken the Dahroug campaign spin on how to define him. More to the point, these posters have little knowledge of the 3rd SD and many leave me with the feeling that they never stepped foot in my home district.

When my mom and dad purchased their Hauppauge home in May of 1969 much of Suffolk County was represented by one state senator. The growth of population was so robust between the 1960 and 1970 census that the county nearly doubled in population. By 1972, we had four state senate seats. My Islip Township was numbered the brand new 3rd SD comprising all of Islip Town and the village of Patchogue in Brookhaven Town. A two term Islip Town Councilman named Caesar Trunzo was nominated for the seat by the Republicans. He faced my fellow Hauppauge resident Fred Zirk and in the huge Nixon landslide over George McGovern, Trunzo easily went on to victory.

In 1974, I as a college sophomore befriended a young law school student named Gary Hausler. Gary wanted to begin his career in politics by running against Trunzo. It was a difficult race and Gary was underfunded and there were local Democrats who did not want to nominate him because up to two years earlier Gary was a registered republican who wanted to run for a newly created assembly seat. The combination of local, thuggish republican party bosses and the Nixonian national scene brought Gary to the conclusion that the Republican Party was not right for him. He was a solid progressive on his social views. He was pro-choice, anti death penalty, pro ERA, pro gun control, believed in aprogressive income tax that made the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes. I managed the campaign and with the post Watergate winds to our backs we came the closest to defeating Trunzo that any Democrat ever came losing 36,500 to 33,000 while spending all of $8500 and about two dozen pairs of shoes between use.

The district evolved with each passing census moving more and more to the east. Today, the 3rd district is about 60% Islip Town and 40% Brookhaven Town running along the Brookhaven south shore from Blue Point (oysters anyone?) to Mastic Beach. The partisan divide, like many districts has narrowed and presently there are just under 63K R's 55k D's and 58K Other as per the just published March 2008 NYS BOE numbers. This partisan R&D gap just 8k has closed up even more since the November 2006 election when the gap was just over 11k.

We all can see a real opportunity for a Democratic takeover of this district. The Caesar of today is a mere shadow of the Caesar of old. At the age of 82, his ability to campaign in a retail political sense is long over. Uncle Joe needs him to run because this district has no Republican bench strength to replace him with. Brookhaven councilman Mazzei is the only elected official at the Town Board, County or state level below the State Senate for the Republicans. I posted some time back on the deep Democratic bench of Three Assembly members, Four County Legislators, Two Town Supervisors and Three Town Councilman, and then there is Jimmy Dahroug.

I supported the good looking, intelligent Dean's Dozen Democrat in 2004 and 2006. While inching closer in 2006 over his 2004 run, Jimmy did so in a much stronger Democratic year with powerful mid-term Democratic national winds to his back. More to the point, Jimmy's 2006 vote seemed to be the base Democratic vote that regrettably falls just short of being enough to win with. A candidate who can win crossover votes from Republicans and Blanks is needed to assure victory in SD 3!

I became very active in local races in Islip Town in 2007 that saw our party take majority control of the Town Govt. for the first time in forty years and the second time in the last century. I met some really nice folks from the NYS DSCC at the Town HQ, several of whom I got to meet again in the Aubertine HQ when my wife and I recently traveled to Oswego. They along with our WFP progressive partners were there to identify the voters and GOTV locally to prepare for this 2008 challenge of Trunzo.

I met the young man who was Jimmy's 2006 campaign manager and who informed me of some very disturbing aspects and weaknesses of Jimmy as a retail door to door type campaigner. He advised that he would never work on his behalf again. I spoke with the head of the Brentwood Hispanic Democratic Club who based in both Trunzo and Dahroug's home community felt that we needed a better candidate in 2008. I met state senator Eric Schneiderman in Oswego, who inspired me and the entire progressive blogosphere with his transactional/transitional politics article in the Nation magazine. He told me that he spoke with my congressman, Steve Israel about Chris Bodkin and that he felt comfortable that Bodkin is dedicated to the progressive principles and agenda that our new state senate majority will forward come January 2009!

I wrestled long and hard with my decision in this race. It is not enjoyable to exchange heated opinions with so many of my fellow progressive bloggers on this race. I am convinced that Jimmy cannot win in November, that Chris Bodkin, should he run, is a Democrat and will vote as a true Democrat on the issues important to us all. In closing, I share a view that Philip so well articulated that Jimmy can use this as an opportunity to prove me and others wrong. I am more than disturbed that Jimmy so feared a primary as to put his blogospheric team into rapid response that distorted and demonized his potential opponent even before he even announced his decision to run. I look forward to following the events that will unfold in SD 3 and know that come November we will all be united in our ongoing efforts to reform Albany and end the era of Joe Bruno and his Republican State Senate Majority!

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Fine, but

"I posted some time back on the deep Democratic bench of Three Assembly members, Four County Legislators, Two Town Supervisors and Three Town Councilman, and then there is Jimmy Dahroug."

OK, you convinced me, dump Dahroug. The same people here backing a two time loser (the second time time in a once in a generation Democratic landslide), have no trouble holding the same set of circumstances against Jack Davis---as well they should. Doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. That's among the reasons I think Steve Harrison's a loser too.

But where the fuck are these Democratic elected officials you speak of. Run one of them!

Instead, you give us Bodkin. It's not merely that Bodkin was a Republican, we welcome converts in our church. The problem is Bodkin lacks any narrative of his change of political heart. Up until recently he was seeking to run for the seat as a Republican, till it became apparent that Joe Bruno was unwilling to issue Caesar his gold watch just yet. Pressed by the NY Times, Bodkin could not come up with any problems with Trunzo's record, other than that he was past his prime. So what's the basis of his campaign other than the ugly strategy of kicking an old man about his age and infirmities (not that I wouldn't stoop to that against McCain)? I'll admit this strategy worked for Al D'Amato in 1980, but surely we can aspire to better role models.

A Republican convert without a credible narrative is not a winning strategy in Suffolk County. Just ask former Congressman Michael Forbes. It infuriates the Republicans into hysterical overdrive while dampening enthusiasm among the Dems. Bodkin's history as a vote getter proves nothing, because that history is entirely on a different line; there's no credible evidence that many of those who've supported him previously would do so again in his new sheep's clothing.

So, if I'm trapped in a losing strategy, I'd rather keep my dignity intact and go with Dahroug.

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Ignoring recent history

Here is a sampling of Congressmen who would not not be in office if we listend to you:

Melissa Bean: lost in 2002 (with 43% of the vote). Won in 2004.

Jerry McNerney: lost in 2004, 61 to 39 percent. Won in 2006.

Paul Hodes: lost in 2004 53 to 38 percent. Won in 2006.

Joe Courtney: lost in 2002 54 to 46 percent. Won in 2006.

Joe Donnelly: lost in 2004 54% to 45%. Won in 2006.

David Loebsack: lost in 2004 (don't have the breakdown, but the Repub got something like 59%). Won in 2006.

Nancy Boyda: lost in 2004 56%-41%. Won in 2006.

Could include Nick Lampson, Ciro Rodriguez and Baron Hill who were special circumstances because they had been in Congress before and had lost before being re-elected in 2006. Possibly comparable, but possibly not.

And, of course, we have several races around the nation where we are banking on a rematch working, such as Massa here in NY State. Dare you to go up to Massa and tell him he should drop out because he's a loser. There's also Linda Stender in NJ who lost in 2006, running again in 2008. Victoria Wulsin lost in the primary to Paul Hackett in 2005. Then she lost when she ran again in 2006. Now she is running again in 2008. Mary Jo Kilroy may run again after losing in 2006. Darcy Bruner wants a rematch after losing in 2006.

You dismiss all of these people, I guess.

And then there's Larry Kissell in North Carolina and Christine Jennings in Florida, though arguably they actually won. They may be more in Al Gore's position vis a vis the Presidency. Not quite comparable.

Steve Harrison and Jimmy Dahroug got better numbers than many of these folks when they lost. Yet you dismiss them. That's old thinking my friend and it is what was disproven in 2006.

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Apples and Oranges comparison

All the candidates you listed ran a great close race the first time and won the second. Kissell and Jennings are just taking their well deserved second run.

Dahroug lost by more than any of these examples the first time, I supported him and he ran a seond time and lost again. None of your examples have had three straight bites at the apple!

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Success of Suffolk R's to D's switchers

A Republican convert without a credible narrative is not a winning strategy in Suffolk County. Just ask former Congressman Michael Forbes.

Your correct, Forbes was a failed switch, failed to even win the primary! If I could show you many more examples of successful switchers, would that change your view? If yes, here we go:

Frank Petrone, Hunt. Supervisor
Debra Mazzarelli, State Assembly
Ginny Fields, State Assembly
Phil Ramos. State Assembly
John Rouse, Brookhaven Hwy Supt.

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Success of R's to D's Party Switchers

A Republican convert without a credible narrative is not a winning strategy in Suffolk County. Just ask former Congressman Michael Forbes.

Your correct, Forbes was a failed switch, failed to even win the primary! If I could show you many more examples of successful switchers, would that change your view? If yes, here we go:

Frank Petrone, Hunt. Supervisor
Debra Mazzarelli, State Assembly
Ginny Fields, State Assembly
Phil Ramos. State Assembly
John Rouse, Brookhaven Hwy Supt.

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Almost everyone you cite..

..lost in 2004, when Bush was carrying their districts, or barely losing them.

Harrison lost in 2006 as virutally the only losing Democrat in a landslide year of monumental proportions.

If you don't see the difference, then you are willfully ignoring it.

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Not really...

Steve did respectably by any standard given the complete lack of support from the DCCC and MoveOn and the likes. Most of the people I cite were criticized as having no shot in 2006. They got more attention that Steve because of where they ran. Many of them I supported long before the old-thinking DCCC types jumped aboard. Steve could have won it had he gotten the same attention or if Fossella had stumbled just a bit more.

And you fail to address the many candidates who LOST in 2006 who are running in 2008. Are you dismissing them? Not even the DCCC is doing that this time around. You willfully ignore them.

Harrison has the local connections and is getting the local endorsements. Your criticism of him on fundraising is cogent. It is a problem. But as someone once said (can't remember who) everything in a campaign can be fixed as long as you have a good candidate. Harrison can connect with moderates and progressives and, unlike some who criticize him, I have met him and heard what he has to say many times. He is quite brave in defending liberalism and the liberal agenda even as he comes from conservative roots. He bridges that aspect of the NY-13 district.

Recchia, on the other hand, comes from completely outside, with almost no connection to the district. He has the backing of Vito Lopez's big developer money, but nothing else. Not one other thing going for him. He is the epitome of a hack. Maybe you would argue that Harrison is an amateur, but voters often respond better to a local amateur than an outsider hack. Recchia could win the primary with Vito's money. But there is no way in hell he will win the general. Steve could win the general (moderately long shot, but possible) if he had money. A better value for your minutes would be helping get money behind Steve Harrison. The combination of some real money and Steve's ability to connect with a broad range of people would be powerful.

And for the record, I supported a majority of the people who won in 2006 BEFORE the mainstream party because I saw their potential. I don't do as well in primaries, I admit. But I can recognize the potential for a Dem pickup. The main problem with picking up NY-13 is the fact that the mainstream party has largely ignored it, and once Steve, in the words of the DCCC, showed that it could be won, the local hacks decide they want to run their pet outsider.

By the way, I feel bad for the guy who wrote this article. He pushes for the Republican turned Dem (and I can cite a few good ones of those, though this situation stinks worse than Hamlet's Denmark) for State Senate, and it gets turned into yet ANOTHER Harrison/grassroots vs Recchia/machine debate.

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Don't cry for me Argentina!

By the way, I feel bad for the guy who wrote this article. He pushes for the Republican turned Dem (and I can cite a few good ones of those, though this situation stinks worse than Hamlet's Denmark) for State Senate,

No need to feel sorry, the Trunzo promoted and Dahroug repeated meme that Bodkin switched only out of opportunism is false. After defeating Trunzo's forces for his town board seat in 2005, the local reps refused to honor the will of their primary voters and remove Trunzo as town leader' All this because in the spirit of good governance Bodkin refused Trunzo orders to allow the corrupt Pete McGowan to ignore term limits and run again for supervisor. Then after Phil Nolan wins supervisor the rep majority blocks all his reform agenda. At that point, Bodkin says enough already, a corrupt local party, a non reform old boy backroom style of governance, I am switching. He than seconded all of Nolans reforms, showed up the reps for the corrupt incompetants they are and helped elect aDemocratic town Board. You see Bodkin actually helped build a local Democratic Party! Now he wants to take down the biggest Boss of all Trunzo and with it end Joe Bruno's career. Plus the Democrats will pick up another Islip Board seat appointing Bodkins successor! No Shakespear here my friend! Just a Big Win Win for our side!

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